Posts by Freedom rocks

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Is attendance down in your location too?

by StarryNight9 in

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i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

my jw family has even mentioned it.

Freedom rocks

I think doubter just likes to argue or think the opposite to everyone else.

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Is attendance down in your location too?

by StarryNight9 in

jw
friends

i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

my jw family has even mentioned it.

The numbers at my last few circuit assemblies went down from over 1400 to between 800 and 1100 the last few years. The regional assembly from 6-7 thousand down to never more than 4400 for the last 5 years. I have the Attendance numbers written down In assembly notebooks that I still have from the last ten years

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

Freedom rocks

Cofty - I'm waiting for the God Delusion and The Greatest Show on Earth to arrive so I can read them. Its hard reading everything on my phone

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

Freedom rocks

I was talking to a jw and someone else the other week who don't know I used to be a jw and when I gave a comment about science the jw had the smug know it all look on his face when he said "I'm guessing you don't believe In creation". He said it as though I was stupid.

Im actually enjoying learning about evolution. I was watching a video on the evolution of whales and hippos yesterday and how the whale still has hip and leg bones even though they aren't used now.

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

Freedom rocks

I don't believe In the bible anymore, I am more looking for scientific answers to life/creation/evolution so I can hold my ground on why I dont believe in the bible.

Maybe I'm looking at it from a jw perspective though in that people who don't believe the bible are dumb and misguided and have no answers.

I feel as if I have to have more knowledge on life and how it got here but maybe I just need to learn to accept that we don't have the answers.

It's the smugness of jws that I hate In that they say they do have the answers (I'm sure you all know the smug smile I'm on about lol when they say they have the answers to why we're here, etc). They have no solid evidence to back up their claims.

I'm not really bothered about why we're here but it would be nice to know more about how we're here, if that makes sense. These are the areas of science I'm looking into, it's just confusing when there are so many conflicting arguments.

I'm not looking for the answers off anyone on here either @dupstepped, I'm just looking to see if others are doing similar research and are going or have gone through similar motions after they left and where they are now.

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

Freedom rocks

Does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?

I've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but I feel no further forward about what I truly believe.

For example I looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then I've seen counter arguments on YouTube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

I'm left confused because there seems to be strong arguments for and against most theories and discoveries.

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Critical thinking

by Freedom rocks in

what kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??.

my most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".

sorry but that doesn't prove god exists.

Freedom rocks

I'm going to try hard from a young age to get my children interested in science, evolution and archaeology as well and when they're older they'll be doing philosophy at school which should help. Thankfully they live with me and not the jw father so I'll hopefully have the strongest influence.

The atheists book of bible stories is another great book to use once old enough. It's questions to get their thinking really going though that i need to think of so they see through what dad says about Jehovah and jws.

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Critical thinking

by Freedom rocks in

what kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??.

my most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".

sorry but that doesn't prove god exists.

Freedom rocks

What kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??

My most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".

Sorry but that doesn't prove god exists. Their critical thinking skills are lacking somewhat.

What I'm after though are simple questions that can get a child thinking and reasoning

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Does Disfellowshipping only prohibit spiritual contact with a DF family member or friend?

by Isambard Crater in

all through my life, now in my 40's, i've seen df people get completely shunned by family and friends, but an ex elder showed me the stfog book that says it's just spiritual contact that stops.

so what's the crack?

i'm mega confused, as i want to go p.o.m.o or ideally da but don't want to loose family..

Freedom rocks

The recent shunning video is a great one to prove they shun family members. They can't get away from that one if it's used

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Does Disfellowshipping only prohibit spiritual contact with a DF family member or friend?

by Isambard Crater in

all through my life, now in my 40's, i've seen df people get completely shunned by family and friends, but an ex elder showed me the stfog book that says it's just spiritual contact that stops.

so what's the crack?

i'm mega confused, as i want to go p.o.m.o or ideally da but don't want to loose family..

Freedom rocks

Sorry isambard crater